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As the title suggests, I am also completely new to painting and was wondering a few things.

First off, where does everyone get their paints and supplies from? I was thinking of checking out my local Joshin today.

Second, since I am gonna be painting some Orks, I am looking for some inspiration for a color scheme. Besides the green skin and black/grey (or brownish) armor), I am trying to decide a color for my "clan." Anyone know of any well painted Ork armies for point of reference? I saw Redbeard's Orks on Dakka Dakka. Silly crazy.

Also, I love the way Orks look in red, but I get the feeling that everyone and their mother's Orks are red. Do people usually have red Orks? Perhaps I am thinking too far ahead, but I am afraid that I am going to regret painting them red if it just makes mine look stock or not like my own or something.

Third, there are a tonnnn of sites that I saw on some of these threads and it's a little overwhelming. Can anyone perhaps recommend a few for starters?

Last, my dear goddddddddddddddddd I just saw Me_in_Japan's Eldar pics. Teach me to paint like that!

- Dom

For all your Ork needs

http://www.the-waaagh.com/forums/

I buy all my paint at home centres like Khama or DIO World. They usually have a small craft section and they sell pots of acylic paint that are double the size of Games Workshops paints at around half the price.

Yep, lots of red orks out there. Also lots of black. My advice to you is pick which colour you think looks good AND will be easy to paint. If you go by colour and clans;

Bad Moons - Yellow (real bugger to paint)
Evil Sunz - Red
Blood Axe - Camo
SnakeBites - Earthy tones
Death Skulls - Blue
Goffs - Black

Domikaze wrote:Last, my dear goddddddddddddddddd I just saw Me_in_Japan's Eldar pics. Teach me to paint like that!
- Dom

I've been painting minis for about 15 years now and I still feel like that. And no offence to MiJ, but there are some MUCH better painters out there. Check this out:
http://www.coolminiornot.com/top

My god, those models are so damn sweet. Even though I couldn't do it, that is just inspirational.


As I was looking around for some painting guides I stumbled across this:

http://www.coolminiornot.com/go.php/go/ ... hp/aid/619?

If I can get my Orks to look like that, I would be more than satisfied. But, can you really speed paint that?

paints:

I use citadel colour, P3 colour, and Vallejo. Theyre all really much the same, and fully intermixable, so buy whatever tickles your fancy on any given day.

Paint is gonna cost ya. Its the kind of thing you eventually pick up one or two pots of as you see it/discover you need it, but to get started youre going to need a fair selection.

Black
White
good, strong red (e.g. GW blood red)
dark brown (e.g. P3 umbral umber)
light brown/tan (e.g. GW bubonic brown)
bone (e.g. GW bleached bone, Vallejo Bonewhite)
dark blue (Foundation Necron Abyss see below)
mid blue (e.g. GW ultramarine)
dark green (e.g. GW Dark Angel green or GW foundation orkhide shade)
mid green (e.g. GW emerald green)
strong yellow (e.g. GW golden yellow AND GW foundation Iyanden darksun)
dark metal (e.g. GW bolt gun metal)
light metal (e.g. GW mithril silver)
shiny gold (e.g. GW shining gold, P3 brass balls)

There are also some colours that are just damn valuable in and of themselves.

Washes are a special type of paint. They are much "thinner" than regular paint. They are transparent, and have a different feel to them. GW do a very good range of em. I love em all. For starters, Id recommend:

Devlan Mud: AKA magic juice. Possibly the most useful paint ever made. its a muddy brown colour.
Thraka green - important if you plan on painting green things.
Badab black - useful for metals.

Foundation paints from GW are different again. Theyre thicker than regular paints, so you have to thin them a bit (this is good. it makes a pot go further). They have much better "coverage" than regular paint. This is especially important for bright colours. You'll likely need:

Orkhide shade (a very dark green)
Iyanden darksun (a slightly brownish yellow)
Mechrite red (darkish red)
Calthan Brown (mid brown)
Necron Abyss (v dark blue)

the last "special" paint id recommend is a metallic colour from GW called Tin Bitz. Its a dark brassy colour, and is an ace base coat for any metal.

Or, if there's a hobby/art store near you, go take a shufty. You want to buy water based acrylic paint. Be wary of gouache, as it is sometimes easy to rub off when dry. Do not buy oils (altho you can get nice effects with em, I wouldnt recommend em to beginners.)

You will also need a decent paintbrush. (well, two, actually.) i recommend Rosemary and Co. You need to order these from overseas. Id advise against cheap brushes. They die easily, and are very frustrating to use. Invest in one good Kolinski sable size 1 brush and one decent size 1 or 2 artificial bristle brush. Use the Kolinski for painting and the synthetic for mixing and undercoating and non-fiddly stuff. Actually, R&co's synthetics are rather good. I often find myself not swapping over to the kolinski at all, unless im doing an especially fiddly model.

e.g.
http://www.rosemaryandco.com/series-pur ... -p-83.html
http://www.rosemaryandco.com/series-poi ... p-367.html

as you can see, when i say "invest" in a good brush, I aint talking about taking out a mortgage. The shipping from this site is about 5 pounds, so youre as well buying two of each brush for later. (actually, Primarch was thinking of buying brushes from here. maybe you could split the postage. PM him...)

Tbh, the best way to learn how to paint, aside from trial and error (and there will be lots of this...) is to be shown how. If you fancy, I could bring my painting stuff to Nagoya some time and give you a demo. This month would be rather difficult, as Im already bringing a large case full of eldar and a backpack full of tanks, so adding in my (rather heavy) painting box would make for a Very Not Fun Trip up from Mie. Also, I daresay you wont actually have any models by that point anyway.

So, hows about next month? Say, the end of the month game in Nagoya? (maybe earlier, depending on schedules and whatnot). I'll bring me paints, you bring yer orkses, and I'll show you how to turn em into proper greenskins

MIJ is a great painter and well all kind of know it... but for orks I am your man like I said I am the guy that actually plays orks and actually paint orks.. Plus I think I live closer than any of the rest of these guys.. pop on by some day and I will give help you sort out what you need to do your orks. beyond that I have heaps of bits you can help your self to.

I have heaps of bits you can help your self to.

note to the possibly-uninitiated: "bits" or, more commonly "bitz" are the spare pieces of mini that you have left over from the sprue after youve built your models. e.g. a sprue may have 10 torsos, 10 legs, 14 left arms, 13 right arms, 11 heads, and two dozen weapons. It follows that youre gonna have some leftovers. Put em in a box, save em, cannibalize em later. The madmiral has...well. Let us say he has a large bitz box. (especially when it comes to orks. Prime, otoh, has a bitz room when it comes to space marines...)

but aye. i digress. The madmiral would be the ideal person to show you the ropes. Plus, he makes ace nachos

Do not expect miracles when you start. It requires some training to get the paint on to the miniature. To learn how thick your paint should be you need practice so paint a lot in the beginning do not spend weeks trying to create a golden daemon miniature.

My second advice is to think careful about what color you will use. One of the hardest is yellow, it does not cover as well and you need a lot of thin layers. Red has a similar problem and the highlight is a little tricky.

I think that the following colors are easy both for cover, shading and highlighting. Different shades of grey, blue, some not all green shades.

Yep, I agree about the blues and yellows but haven't had too much bother with the reds funnily enough. Coverage is never a problem BUT highlighting can be a touch tricky. Whatever you do, don't add white or you will end up with gay looking pink marines! Add yellow or orange to it for a highlight.

ummm let's see.

Pink eldar: ok, I can see it, not well but I can see it
pink chaos marines: slaneesh at his worst
pink Orks: worth it to watch badruck go nuts
pink necrons: while you slept, the frat boys played the ultimate prank on you
pink space marines: way beyond gay