building from scratch (warhammer army escalation)

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building from scratch (warhammer army escalation)

Post by Colonel Voss » Wed Jul 21, 2010 5:08 am

Well, as some of you may have seen, Rob is going on how I'll be playing the stunties again. Truth is, that's on hold until September, because I came up with a way to (hopefully) help get more people in Tajimi into Warhammer.

Up until now in 40k, I have brought my own large armies in and the players have been playing build up the army with my force sizes. That's pretty intimidating, especially when I kept bringing in new tanks or sometimes even a whole new army!

This time though, I will start with the players, a new army; collecting and building said army up in step with them. This is an escalation army building rather than a massive collection. It'll start at 750 pnts in September through Dec. A small tournament in December. Then escalate to 1,500 pnts with a tournament in March/April time. 2250 in June/July and 3,000 in September.

This of course is dependent on whether or not I can get players to join and everyone here at Nagoyahammer is also more than welcome to join in. As anybody in Tajimi who joins will be a new player, it would be better if you either a) start a new army with us and join us for the events each month, or b) play your lesser known army that usually doesn't get much gaming time (ex. Stu and his Bretonnians, Rob and his Lizzies) rather than your first line army that you play regularly. But if you can't help but bring your first line army, then just remember this is for fun and to help grow our pool of players.

For my army choice, I will follow the following rules when it comes to selection:

1) I will not select an army that another player has chosen to start a new army with (if you are using a pre-existing army then that army does not count in the selection process).
2) I will do my very best not to select an army I already have and/or have a lot of experience with (i.e. no HE, WoC, and Dwarfs) unless they are the only choice(s) left.
3) Should, for some phenomenally cool reason, all armies be selected (13 new armies being started), then my army will be chosen by pulling a name from a hat (or maybe the last name in the hat when all the others have been pulled out if everyone wants to torture me).
4) I will try to make updates here similar to a tale of four gamers to show my progress and help any new players who join Nagoyahammer with army building ideas.

Of course if nobody signs up, then the stunties shall rise again :lol:
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Re: building from scratch (warhammer army escalation)

Post by Primarch » Wed Jul 21, 2010 5:54 am

Hmmmm....do I really need to start a new army?

Now I think everyone can guess the answer to that one.

Will I start a new army?

Again, everyone can take a guess.

(The answers were no and yes respectively in case anyone missed the 40k insanity thread I posted a while back)

I think it would be helpful if you posted some more info re: A) How many rookies do you currently have who are joining in and what armies have they expressed an interest in. B) How often you play, C) Where and when you play. Links to a map please, How much space does the venue have etc.

I personally would appreciate it if you could get your rookies on here, posting away in Japanese. (or English if they like). You can start threads for them to update their army details and ask rules questions/request advice. A seperate thread in the painting section would also help I think.

I would like to join, but whether I do start a new army is debatable. I currently have Bretts that I have never used (but Spevna is painting them for me, so that is kind of cheating I guess), Orcs and Goblins that are half built, Dwarves that I have started to clip from the sprues and with the new WFB box set coming out, Skaven.
AAAAHHH Too many choices!!!! Plus High Elves and Vampire Counts which are around the 3000 points value....

...and Empire have always looked cool......stoppitstoppitstoppit.....or the Samurai fan made armybook....nononononononononono

At least I can definitely say I absolutely wont be buying Ogres. Probably.

Let me know when you're starting (ie when players will be bringing their own models) and I will come down if I can with my fantasy bits box and your rookies can have a rummage through and do some conversions or something.
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Re: building from scratch (warhammer army escalation)

Post by Colonel Voss » Wed Jul 21, 2010 6:15 am

As I am leaving for the states on Saturday (well Sat. is staying in a hotel, planes start Sun. morning) and WFB hasn't been released here yet, things are still in the planing stage. I have 2 40kers in Tajimi who have shown interest but as I'm not allowed to start demoing until September (nor do i have the time) I won't know more until the end of August, mid-Sept. when the demo games begin.

Currently, we only have one table in Tajimi for the events, but if we can get enough momentum going, I am positive that we can get the owner to take space away from the card gamers once a month (and I will take so much sadistic pleasure in doing so that Slaneesh will think it's looking in the mirror :twisted: ) to get more tables. Tournament location will depend on numbers. Small numbers, then Tajimi, larger numbers Nagoya or Kani (Kani station and Shinkani are right next to a new community center and I know the people working there).

Time of events will be in the Tajimi Outrider thread http://www.nagoyahammer.com/forum/viewt ... f=12&t=234 and I'll post a guide on how to get there soon when I have a bit more time on my hands.
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Re: building from scratch (warhammer army escalation)

Post by Primarch » Tue Jul 27, 2010 12:27 pm

Well, I have been looking at the armies I already have and seeing how well they scale up in power levels.

Vampire counts at low level seem do-able. Their ability to spam necromancy spells and the dirt cheap Necromancers seem like a great way to take advantage of the abundance of power dice you're going to have. At low points, big mobs of skeletons and wights could be decent.

Brettonians can put down a lot of infantry or a big block of knights at 750 points. At low levels, no-one is going to have the super-sized blocks of troops that will cause problems for cavalry, and with Bretts getting ranks at 3 models wide, they should be able to lay the smack down regularly. However, once the points levels go up, their threat level goes down.

Orcs again seem like a viable choice at lower points as you can easily take 2 or even 3 heroes (goblins) for your points. Cheap infantry with very cheap war machines could be good. At higher levels, expanding into Orcs, then Black Orcs keeps them semi-decent.

Still not sure what I will pick. I guess it depends on what the rookies want to do. I hope Voss can get some decent support going for this.
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Re: building from scratch (warhammer army escalation)

Post by Colonel Voss » Tue Jul 27, 2010 1:54 pm

I hope I can too. If I can get a few who are at least interested here, it'll help my recruiting drive. No matter what if there is interest, I'll run something. GW seems behind me and now that I've been reading through the books, I'm getting some fun ideas for events. I need to start building terrain once I get back.
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Re: building from scratch (warhammer army escalation)

Post by Admiral-Badruck » Tue Jul 27, 2010 3:02 pm

I will not be starting a new army not when there are Plastic Blood Crushers on the market.. not to mention they look freaking awesome....

I would love to learn the game little by little.. I am going to get some more Blood Crushers ASAP. Make suer you send me a PM to remind me.. when I need to be there...
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Re: building from scratch (warhammer army escalation)

Post by Primarch » Tue Jul 27, 2010 11:05 pm

Actually, there is no rush on those Blood Crushers. You can field a max of 2 in a 750 point army, which is what we'll be playing for the first few months.
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Re: building from scratch (warhammer army escalation)

Post by The Other Dave » Wed Jul 28, 2010 12:37 am

I'll happily take part with my Gobbilins, schedule permitting. It'll help keep my painting on track, too.
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Re: building from scratch (warhammer army escalation)

Post by Primarch » Wed Jul 28, 2010 12:43 am

I guess you're not so far from Taijimi either.
Now all we need to do is get some of Voss's rookies involved and avoid taking over their store with our games.
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Re: building from scratch (warhammer army escalation)

Post by Colonel Voss » Wed Jul 28, 2010 1:34 am

Hey admiral, you got a load of lizards sitting there itching for a fight. Why not bring them out to play?
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