My thoughts on 5th Edition Dungeons and Dragons
Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2019 5:05 am
A lot of people (well at least 3) have asked me about what I think about 5th edition recently. I have to say that despite appreciating the rules in a lot of ways, I actually enjoy playing 3.5 a lot more still. That is just based on personal experience though, maybe I just having been playing it wrong, as the Internet generally seems to like 5th better.
Anyway, here are the things I like and don't like about 5th (as compared to 3.5)
Good Points
Overall, it's much better for beginners or casual play.
1) It's easier. It is much easier to learn the rules, and to do combat. It is way faster to create characters, taking about a tenth of the time, especially for high level characters.
2) It's less easy to break. Fewer things stack, so it is difficult to get ridiculously high attack rolls, damage, skills, etc.
3) Grid combat is optional. It's nice if you are not into that.
4) Magic Users never run out of spells (they can always use cantrips, which scale up as you level up), so everyone always has something to do in a fight.
Downsides
1) It has fewer skills. This one is probably not a big deal, but it still bugs me. I don't mind if they get rid of Use Rope or combine Move Silently and Hide, but I miss a few like some of the Knowledge skills (engineering, geography, local, planes, etc.), Disable Device (which I can't see as being the same as Sleight of Hand), and Craft and Profession, which I often used to flesh out my character. I suppose backgrounds do that almost as well in 5th, though.
2) It's (too?) easy for characters to do things. For example, all wounds are healed at the end of a long rest. You can identify a magic item by just playing around with it for a while. You don't need to conserve spells as much because you can always use cantrips.
3) Combat is boring. You can shoot into melee combat without penalty. There is no flanking, no 5 foot step, no charging. Few Attacks of Opportunity. Grappling is less effective. There are some DMG options to re-introduce some of these rules but in general combat is much simpler, and for me less interesting.
4) I don't feel special:
a) There are fewer classes/prestige classes/other character options (at least for now).
b) Few things stack, so you will never be really good at something.
c) Everyone can us all of the Skills. So, your Barbarian has a good chance to know more about some magic spell than your wizard, for no particular reason.
d) Everyone has about the same chance to hit in a fight. The "proficiency bonus" (which determines bonuses for attacks, saves, and proficient skills) goes up at the same rate for everyone. And people tend to use their best stat (eg: Int for Wizards casting attack spells, Dex for thieves with finesse weapons) to attack with.
e) Everyone does about the same damage (with Cantrips or Weapons or whatever)
When I played a Fighter in 5th, I felt gimped compared to the spell casters in particular, who could contribute as much in a fight (other than soaking up damage, I suppose), and then do all other sorts of stuff like fly or turn invisible or polymorph, too. I have not felt like that playing fighter types in in 3.5, despite spellcasters generally being more powerful in that game as well.
Anyway, here are the things I like and don't like about 5th (as compared to 3.5)
Good Points
Overall, it's much better for beginners or casual play.
1) It's easier. It is much easier to learn the rules, and to do combat. It is way faster to create characters, taking about a tenth of the time, especially for high level characters.
2) It's less easy to break. Fewer things stack, so it is difficult to get ridiculously high attack rolls, damage, skills, etc.
3) Grid combat is optional. It's nice if you are not into that.
4) Magic Users never run out of spells (they can always use cantrips, which scale up as you level up), so everyone always has something to do in a fight.
Downsides
1) It has fewer skills. This one is probably not a big deal, but it still bugs me. I don't mind if they get rid of Use Rope or combine Move Silently and Hide, but I miss a few like some of the Knowledge skills (engineering, geography, local, planes, etc.), Disable Device (which I can't see as being the same as Sleight of Hand), and Craft and Profession, which I often used to flesh out my character. I suppose backgrounds do that almost as well in 5th, though.
2) It's (too?) easy for characters to do things. For example, all wounds are healed at the end of a long rest. You can identify a magic item by just playing around with it for a while. You don't need to conserve spells as much because you can always use cantrips.
3) Combat is boring. You can shoot into melee combat without penalty. There is no flanking, no 5 foot step, no charging. Few Attacks of Opportunity. Grappling is less effective. There are some DMG options to re-introduce some of these rules but in general combat is much simpler, and for me less interesting.
4) I don't feel special:
a) There are fewer classes/prestige classes/other character options (at least for now).
b) Few things stack, so you will never be really good at something.
c) Everyone can us all of the Skills. So, your Barbarian has a good chance to know more about some magic spell than your wizard, for no particular reason.
d) Everyone has about the same chance to hit in a fight. The "proficiency bonus" (which determines bonuses for attacks, saves, and proficient skills) goes up at the same rate for everyone. And people tend to use their best stat (eg: Int for Wizards casting attack spells, Dex for thieves with finesse weapons) to attack with.
e) Everyone does about the same damage (with Cantrips or Weapons or whatever)
When I played a Fighter in 5th, I felt gimped compared to the spell casters in particular, who could contribute as much in a fight (other than soaking up damage, I suppose), and then do all other sorts of stuff like fly or turn invisible or polymorph, too. I have not felt like that playing fighter types in in 3.5, despite spellcasters generally being more powerful in that game as well.
