GW's Summer of Fliers

[AndrewGPaul]

Armor 12 on a flyers is a bit much. I would like to see the AV come down to about 11 10 10 on Valks and at the same time drop the points value.

The Flyer version was AV 11/11/10 and cost 140 points. In addition, if you used ot to carry a Tarantula sentry gun or a Cyclops demolition vehicle, it couldn't take any under-wing rockets.

[Primarch]

You would get one? really... you have to be kidding.. that thing really sucks man we can debate it but it is.. Almost as useless as the Tau etherial special Character.

And you STILL dont get why I play these games and collect these models. Cool rules are fine, but cool models (or big gribbly winged beasties) are better.
If I played Tau, I would buy an ethereal. It may never see the tabletop, but I would eventually get one.

[Admiral-Badruck]

it that is why the go right ahead and get one... seems like a bit of a waste...

[Primarch]

Some more rumours/news on the Summer of Flyers.

Some updates.
The "summer of flyers" (again, temper this name, it's not much more than spearhead was) article in wd if it happens will be an apoc expansion...not basic game. To include formations, special strategies, etc. About what anyone would expect.
The specific plastics for the wave release passed QA. Yeah! And include the following
Ig hydra
De r-wing
Ork copta
Nid harpy
There may be a few other surprises. It is apoc after all.
However, no one seems to be certain if these items will be released together as a wave right now. There is a lot of back and forth as to how best to put them out...flyer related dump, or wait and do army based updates, meaning a ig wave, a de wave, etc. There is strong desire to complete the de models before the next codex release after GK. I don't think it's possible based on where some of the outstanding models are in the process...and what has to be done for that codex. Only so many people to do the work. You can't put 3 women together and get a baby in 3 months, right?
No craft world eldar models will be included here. And there is a reason for it, but I can't go into it yet. And no codex on immediate horizon, to keep people from getting excited...
Also, the de void flyer will not make a summer debut...its a big model...comparatively, and there are other challenges facing it...but it is coming eventually, hopefully before fall.
My information comes direct this time, but the decisions about what and when to release things I am not privy to...wd will already be set in stone by now and so someone(s) already knows what is and isn't happening in this, just not I...

From reading through the very long thread Warseer has on this topic, it looks like the DE Voidraven has some quality control issues that are being addressed, hence the delay.

[Admiral-Badruck]

When you say quality control I guess you are talking about the way the model looks... I am sure GW do not want a re-peat of the storm raven.

[Primarch]

When you say quality control I guess you are talking about the way the model looks... I am sure GW do not want a re-peat of the storm raven.

Nope, something to do with some parts of the model snapping off too easily and some panels not forming properly. Quality Control =/= Design

[Admiral-Badruck]

Ok well I hope they get it fixed... I was really hoping for some kind of way to add Flyers to the 40K games.. with out them "breaking the game"