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Re: learning new techniques

Post by Ichibanpainting » Mon Apr 16, 2012 2:05 pm

I have a tutorial up on my website on how to make a wet pallet! It isn't worth it to buy one! Only difference is parchment paper or wax paper. Personally I like wax paper better since it doesn't affect the mix and dilution of the paint. Anyway you can check the video I've made.
http://ichibanpainting.com/2012/04/10/h ... tte-for-5/

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Re: learning new techniques

Post by Colonel Voss » Sat May 05, 2012 1:29 pm

The beginning and a reality check

I hope everyone enjoyed Nagoyahammer. I am sad that I couldn't make it. Sadly the amount of work I had to do precluded me from participating. In fact, I think I finally hit my finishing point. Didn't feel good yesterday and today just slept most of the afternoon.

With everything going on and some money issues cropping up, I'll be pulling back on my original plans of three tiers. Job is right, I have a lot to work on and best not to take on more projects. So I will be dropping to two tiers and moving demons and Retribution down.

Today I started on my Necrons and began painting with the new GW paints. Overall, the new metals are nice. They went on smoother than previous ones and not as thick as before. After some experimenting, I did learn that holding the bottle upside down and shaking seems to work better for the bases. The metal parts seem to sink to the bottom and not want to come up.

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With the metal body covered brass, I think it looks ok, though I found that brass doesn't mix well with any of the washes I own. The copper coloring (seen more on a model in the background) looks rich and the added colors go well with it, though it does need a light wash or it stands out way too much. I'm going to play around with the colors a bit more but this shows where I am going.

As a side note, I discovered my smartphone doesn't like skulls or skeletons. It would focus on anything but the model no matter what was behind it.
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Re: learning new techniques

Post by job » Sat May 05, 2012 1:39 pm

I like it. The shade looks good.

My opinion is to add some dark washes afterwards, like layers of black and reddish-brown washes. It might be tempting to even do some rusty looking pigmentation. :D

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Re: learning new techniques

Post by Tenorikuma » Sat May 05, 2012 2:52 pm

That brass look will make for a very striking army. :)
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Re: learning new techniques

Post by me_in_japan » Sat May 05, 2012 3:08 pm

I agree with Job and Ten - the brass is a welcome change from the usual gun metal, although as Job said, it could do with some washes. That said, it looks pretty decent as-is. With a bit of basing (even just a simple sand/glue/paint mix in brown, drybrushed in some deserty colours (beige/cream/yellowish)) it would look very presentable on teh table top. To take it a step further, a wash of sepia (or similar dark brown) would make things pop a bit. Rather than wash it all-over, you could aim to wash a bit more selectively - under the crotch, under the arms and at the base of the spine. This is actually quicker than an all-over wash, as you still dont need to be too concerned with exactly where it goes, and there are less places to cover :) Not absolutely necessary, though.

btw - weathering could be cool, but be careful not to overdo it. Brass weathers to turquoise, not brown, btw. Use a very, very watered down hawk turquoise (or whatever GW are calling it these days) wash applied carefully to the grooves to get the desired effect. (example: my nurgle termi lord, and indeed, the rest of my termis.) Go easy on this effect, as it looks better used sparingly. Also, avoid doing it in places where you washed with the aforementioned sepia, as the weathering would need to be darker too, to not end up garish against the darker surroudings (i.e. rusty bits shouldnt glow in the dark. they should get darker, too. This is a PITA, so if you weather something, just kinda fade out the weathering the darker it gets.)

Overall, though, job's a good un :)

ps - that gun would look bitchin' in a pale beige/sandy colour. Highlight to white, shade to a darker browish beige. just my two cents - feel free to ignore :D
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Re: learning new techniques

Post by Colonel Voss » Sat May 05, 2012 10:51 pm

MiJ: basically you addressed all my thoughts before I had time to even think up the questions :lol:

I had actually tried to use a bit of a blue wash on certain parts to add a mysterious feel to it but sadly the blue just turned brown against the brass. weathering is something I am looking at. I'll need a wet pallet before I can start though, still waiting on my PP order. And the gun idea sounds good, I'll see what browns I have to work with.

Base wise, I want to go with a scorched earth feel to it.
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Re: learning new techniques

Post by me_in_japan » Sun May 06, 2012 4:08 am

Scorched earth should be fine on the base. One thing to watch is that the mini itself is quite dark, so a paler base would make the model stand out more. You don't want it to all kinda blend together from a distance. So, a kinda pale scorched earth would be better than a dark and dingy scorched earth. Ash wastes, p'haps?

Ps - ooh, I just had a thought - the crons themselves are pretty monochrome, so a wee bit of colour in the bases might be nice. You can still do scorched earth, just wash wee splodges of watered down paint or washes on some parts of the base. Green and purple work well for this. Keep em thin - you want the overall look of the base to be grey/brown/whatever, just with a wee tint of colour in some patches.
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Re: learning new techniques

Post by Colonel Voss » Mon May 07, 2012 12:27 pm

hmmm.... that is a good point. I do need some color beyond what I was thinking about. Let me do some thinking here and see if I come up with something better than scorched earth. Might also be good to change as I only have a few browns in my paints right now.
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Re: learning new techniques

Post by Colonel Voss » Tue May 08, 2012 9:38 am

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brown added, a little pink and green for color spice and a base color put on the base. not sure how I will highlight it from here. The new are quite interesting to work with. I'm so use to smooth strokes that the rougher strokes they produce takes some getting use to.
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Re: learning new techniques

Post by me_in_japan » Tue May 08, 2012 12:45 pm

hard to judge colour, as the pic is so dark. Can you take another shot with a light shining more towards the 'cron, plz? I'd like to comment, but he's kinda uniformly dark, at the mo.
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