Question regarding future NH events and armylists

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Re: Question regarding future NH events and armylists

Post by Spevna » Sun May 20, 2012 4:08 am

Admiral-Badruck wrote:We do not have to accept them we chooses to accept them we can always say I am not playing against X army or X codex. I think playing against codex exidites would be fun. I wish someone would write it.
That isn't what he said. He said we must accept them if we want to play WH40K in some kind of universally recognisable form, such as NagoyaHammer.

If you organise a tournament that is open to the general game playing populace of a nation you cannot refuse up play against a codex that is an official GW release.
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Re: Question regarding future NH events and armylists

Post by Tenorikuma » Sun May 20, 2012 4:52 am

Pretty sure Badruck means a player should be able to choose whether he'll play against an unofficial codex or army list. If that's what he means, I'm in agreement.
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Re: Question regarding future NH events and armylists

Post by Konrad » Sun May 20, 2012 5:38 am

I would be totally against playing against home-brewed lists in a tournament. IA is okay, I guess. There is enough mucking about trying to keep informed and organized as it is with the current codices, errata, faqs, Japanese/English and time limits. At least there is for me and my small brain. I would be totally for, enthusiastically even, setting aside two tables for a big test-play-o-rama.
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Re: Question regarding future NH events and armylists

Post by Admiral-Badruck » Sun May 20, 2012 5:49 am

I do mean that if you are at a tournament and if someone shows up with necrons or tau and you do not want to play him you can just walk out. It might make you an asshat but you still have the option to walk out.


I think someone is equally an asshat if they say this codex is not official I am not playing against you..
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Re: Question regarding future NH events and armylists

Post by Primarch » Sun May 20, 2012 6:46 am

Admiral-Badruck wrote:I do mean that if you are at a tournament and if someone shows up with necrons or tau and you do not want to play him you can just walk out. It might make you an asshat but you still have the option to walk out.


I think someone is equally an asshat if they say this codex is not official I am not playing against you..
A little harsh perhaps? This hobby is meant to be fun for both players, just because Person A thinks something is fun does not mean that Person B will always agree.
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Re: Question regarding future NH events and armylists

Post by job » Sun May 20, 2012 1:55 pm

I think someone is equally an asshat if they say this codex is not official I am not playing against you..
On the other hand, if you're going to try out a home-brewed codex, I think you have to be circumspect and consider your opponent's feelings. You can't just drop it on them, or force them to play you. You can't really blame them if they don't feel comfortable at first. The burden kind of lies on you to make them feel comfortable and convince them you wrote something that is balanced and fair along with fun. :)

A tournament setting is no place to really be winning over people (if you win people are goig to wonder if your rules are broken, neh?) Also your opponent has no chance to choose to play your codex or not. Essentially they are compelled to play your list regardless of how they feel. :?

Spev and the others are right when they say GW rules are easily acceptable. (Anyway, you can always aim your gripes and bichin' about the rules at the distant and much hated GW. It is much more delicate if the author is your game mate. :D )

I think you should write the Grot codex and be ready to accept lots of input from your opponents. If you can do that I'd be very happy to play against your Grot codex or try out the Tau codex you have in mind.
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Re: Question regarding future NH events and armylists

Post by kojibear » Sun May 20, 2012 2:04 pm

Does this sort of fall within the category of 'house rules' in a way? If the tournament were open to those invited from within the club's regulars then I can see that it would be easier to manage as everyone will have the necessary shared knowledge and relationship/trust with their fellow players.

But if it is a tournament open to anyone from around the country, then best stick with GW/IA rules etc.

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Re: Question regarding future NH events and armylists

Post by Admiral-Badruck » Sun May 20, 2012 9:54 pm

No point in tau they are due for a broken dex sometime this year is the rumors are true.

If someone has a problem with grots when I am done with it the will need a head examination the codex is not ment to win it is ment for wacky fun stuff to happen. Oficial codex armies have nothing to fear unless they play like a total muppet.
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Re: Question regarding future NH events and armylists

Post by job » Sun May 20, 2012 10:22 pm

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Re: Question regarding future NH events and armylists

Post by Danguinius » Sun May 20, 2012 11:30 pm

Two points:

1. I`m not big on IA dexes or (especially) fan dexes. I have NEVER seen a fan dex that was "weaker" than a normal codex. The creators think they are being sly, but always they are intended to be powerful in certain combinations. There are weak IA lists, there are powerful IA lists; guess which ones will be brought to a tournamnet?

2. Shouldn`t we wait and have a little faith that 6th Edition will level the playing fieldkind of like how 8th Edition did a lot to level WFB (I`m not saying it was a perfect fix...but waaaaaayyyyy better than the WAAC days of 7th). Yes, I know...this is Danguinius...appealing on behalf of 40K....the RULES of 40K no less...but perhaps we should just wait and see what 6th edition is like before we start arguing over IA dexes and fan dexes.

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